I spend more of my time working online every year. I communicate through Gmail, Twitter and Facebook online. I write documents and balance spreadsheets online. I take notes and highlight important information online. I keep my appointments, tasks and contacts lists online. And I can access them from any computer I happen to be using - as long as it’s online. Will I ever be able to do that when producing music?
I’m not alone. Recently Mashable summarized a Nielson Company report that found that “in September 2009, the average U.S. Internet user spent an estimated 68 hours online.” During that 68 hours, users visit almost 2700 sites, averaging less than a minute on each site.
Sites are becoming services rather than static information, with Google, Zoho, Adobe and Microsoft releasing online application suites, and many other sites providing specific services from organizing your finances to project management. And Envato have recently launched a new site called WebAppStorm to keep track of it all.
Will music production go the same way? Can you imagine recording and producing audio using web applications? Koblo is a company who have been working hard to make it a reality for a while, and recently Aviary launched an online audio editor called Myna. How compelling are they?
Koblo

Koblo online audio collaboration
Koblo excited me when I first heard of it around a year ago. They had open-sourced their software, and were creating an online service for music collaboration. Here is their description of the service: “Koblo Studio has some unique online collaboration features, because it’s connected to the Koblo cloud. You’ll be able to work together with other musicians or band members across the planet, reviews changes, and grow your music in creative ways. It’s the power of open source, now for musicians.”
Bandwidth is one of the challenges of producing audio online. Their solution was to store high-quality versions of each track on your computer, and compressed versions on their server to share with other musicians. That way the high-quality tracks were available for mastering in the future, and musicians could play along with the low-bandwidth versions online as they recorded the next track. That sounds like a plan.
The project received a lot of press. I heard interviews with the developers on both open-source and music podcasts. The future was looking promising.
Yet when you visit the Koblo website today, it simply contains the following message:
Goodnight and good luck.
Thank you
To the community and the fans of koblo we would like to thank you for your support.
What happened to Koblo? They closed for financial reasons. A previous message on their site read: “Due to the financial plug being pulled on Koblo, development has stopped on this site and Koblo Studio. It’s not surprising it happened in this economic climate and Koblo was bleeding money. We are firm believers on the concept of music collaboration on the net and will strive to rebuild the Koblo community and continue to develop tools for collaboration.”
I don’t think they closed because the idea of online music collaboration is unpromising. There is plenty of speculation around the forums about bad business practices and copyright infringement. I don’t know. In any case, because the project was open source, the code is still out there. Who knows what will happen in the future.
Myna

Aviary's Myna audio editor
Aviary’s online graphics editing software is widely regarded as the best there is. The fact they have now turned their attention to online audio editing is very exciting.
The product description on their website reads: “Use Myna to remix music tracks and audio clips. Apply sound effects and record your own voice or instruments!”
They have also released a video introduction to the product:
Unlike Kobla, Myna’s emphasis is not just online collaboration, but real audio editing online. Here are some of the features of the software listed on the website:
- Powerful Clip Editing
Trim, Loop, Stretch and Reverse your audio clips, width editable loop points, and interactive time stretch capabilities. - Automation
Easily add fade-ins, fade-outs, pan from left to right, and modify gain over time, with editable control points. - Effects
Add non-destructive effects to your audio clips including Pitch Change, Reverb, Delay, Parametric EQ, and more. - Import / Export
Import your own audio files, or search one of our provided libraries. Mix it down and export directly to your desktop or publish back to your account. - Share and learn
Collaborate with other users. Follow step-by-step tutorials to learn new skills.
Rafe Needleman from Cnet News sums up his review of Myna: “Myna is a hobbyist’s tool now … but there are pro-level features coming in future releases. I found GarageBand more capable, but Myna is more approachable… Myna is a free app. It’s impressive and it’s a ton of fun. It might even be useful.”
How promising do you find the idea of online audio production? Where would it fit in your workflow? If you get a chance, take Myna for a test drive, and let us know how you find it in the comments.
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User Comments
( ADD YOURS )Fredsel October 22nd
My band and I have been working almost a year now through the net, not with online apps, but we just post our zipped projects on our server, someone picks it up and builds further on it, then postst the new version on the server and so it continues…
( )No need to say we’re much more productive this way in regard to past years when we gathered weekly to work on tracks… Everyone does his share in his spare time so we don’t have to come together anymore loosing precious time with transporting our gear all the time…
Only downside is that we’ll have to work in the same DAW. And if you use vst(i)’s you’ll have to bounce them…
Joshua Bogart October 23rd
Eh, I like ftp and my own DAW. Not to mention my own plugs and presets.
( )Nesztler Thibaud October 23rd
I have to seen if it’s fastest online
( )miniMAL October 23rd
I dont know..make music online…?
we realy need this?
all that “community” stuff…
( )Esben Lorenzen October 23rd
Well, i think that it its a great idea, and something that would be very useful!
( )If you for instance play in a band, and one of the members has to go on a long vacation while you are working on your next hit, you can still share ideas and get the “basics” of the song finished, so that you can get it done as fast as possible, when he comes back.
Could be nice, but i think that i would only use it, if it was like my own DAW, just missing a few advanced features. This means, no lag, latency-free recording with my audio-card and so on.
I hope that we’ll get there in a couple of years!
Rick G October 23rd
Hey Adrian,
( )Great post!
Definitely been surprised by the options out there and their functionality.
These new online DAW’s sometimes beat the functionality of desktop software from just 5 years ago.
I was especially curious about Myna, checked it out and produced a vlog of the whole thing, id love for you to check it out.
Peace!
Adrian Try October 23rd
Hi Rick. Really enjoyed the vlog. Thanks for sharing!
( )bob October 23rd
What about hobnox? Those guys are the leaders in terms of developers working on, in the browser flash code in terms of audio – and seeing Andre Michelle speaking at FOTB2009 ,he said that collaborative realtime is coming to the hobnox platform…(plus he demoed the most awesome graintable circular synth) definately one to watch
( )schoien October 23rd
I think these online apps are grate, but I dont see them as competitors to the desktop apps. Pro and semipro users will still have the need of desktop apps. I realy find Abeltons aproach to sharing projects realy appealing. They make it possible to work togethor without transfering all projectfiles every time.
More here: http://www.ableton.com/share
( )SlowX October 24th
Don’t forget Splice, an Acid-like online site that one day just… vanished:
( )http://www.splicemusic.com/
Production Automation October 27th
Hi, I liked your article.I think these application are fabulous. Thanks for sharing this post. Bye
( )roymond October 29th
I don’t see it replacing desktop apps in the near future. I guess it’s safe to say we never know what to expect from the future, but for now I collaborate sharing compressed files that retain their time accuracy, with everyone recording on their own DAW at the same bpm (or share a time track) then FTP the uncompressed back for whoever does the final mix. It works great, ensures high quality tracks and its been working for many years. Plus, you get everyone recording in familiar territory and bringing their best game to the session.
( )Charlie Hoover December 1st
Anyone ever here try hobnox audiotool?
hobnox.com
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