Comments on: Workshop #7: The Frozen Rose by Excellion http://audio.tutsplus.com/articles/general/workshop-7-the-frozen-rose-by-excellion/ Music, Sound & Audio Tutorials Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:32:28 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: dogboy http://audio.tutsplus.com/articles/general/workshop-7-the-frozen-rose-by-excellion/#comment-27558 dogboy Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:39:14 +0000 http://audio.tutsplus.com/?p=1397#comment-27558 hello,can give you few opinion about your track. First of all,the low end is a bit muddy you should clean it up a bit.For the drums ,it miss a bit of air(12 to 16 khz on the overhead to give some transient sit more in the mix) The voice level need to be tracked down by fader to raise an homogene level(the beginin is low and then it comes ok) And at last but this is personnal ,don't like the kind of exciter on the mix ,sort of light overdrive on the overall that crush the precision of low end Hope it ll help you and keep the hard work mate Dogboy hello,can give you few opinion about your track.
First of all,the low end is a bit muddy you should clean it up a bit.For the drums ,it miss a bit of air(12 to 16 khz on the overhead to give some transient sit more in the mix)
The voice level need to be tracked down by fader to raise an homogene level(the beginin is low and then it comes ok)
And at last but this is personnal ,don’t like the kind of exciter on the mix ,sort of light overdrive on the overall that crush the precision of low end
Hope it ll help you and keep the hard work mate

Dogboy

]]> By: Adrian Villavicencio - Bass (Excellion) http://audio.tutsplus.com/articles/general/workshop-7-the-frozen-rose-by-excellion/#comment-26213 Adrian Villavicencio - Bass (Excellion) Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:48:34 +0000 http://audio.tutsplus.com/?p=1397#comment-26213 I agree with the guitars... I'll check that later. Thanks for your critics man! we're trying the best to write even better music, and theres new members on the band that will make this possible in awesome ways. we're almost ready to release another song of the band, hope you like, come check us! www.myspace.com/xcellion I agree with the guitars… I’ll check that later.

Thanks for your critics man! we’re trying the best to write even better music, and theres new members on the band that will make this possible in awesome ways.

we’re almost ready to release another song of the band, hope you like, come check us!

http://www.myspace.com/xcellion

]]> By: Adrian Villavicencio - Bass (Excellion) http://audio.tutsplus.com/articles/general/workshop-7-the-frozen-rose-by-excellion/#comment-26210 Adrian Villavicencio - Bass (Excellion) Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:44:07 +0000 http://audio.tutsplus.com/?p=1397#comment-26210 hey! :O thanks man! sorry for answer so late, maybe you won't be reading this but I really aprecciate your comments all the stuff you its worth checking, thank you again! hey! :O thanks man!
sorry for answer so late, maybe you won’t be reading this
but I really aprecciate your comments all the stuff you its
worth checking, thank you again!

]]> By: Graham http://audio.tutsplus.com/articles/general/workshop-7-the-frozen-rose-by-excellion/#comment-23594 Graham Tue, 26 May 2009 13:37:51 +0000 http://audio.tutsplus.com/?p=1397#comment-23594 Firstly I think it is a great track, well written and performed. I agree with comments made about the long intro. I also thought I was listening to an instrumental (and a good one at that!!) at first - but I don't necessarily think this is a drama depending on your situation. It would work well at a live performance for example. The main thing I could think of to improve is punching out the drums a bit more - they may be competing with a lot happening in the lower freqs. My ear was straining trying to appreciate them. I know they are hard to tune and mic just right, but I would even consider adding samples shots on top if I had to get it to a commercial-ready state, and if the EQ'ing didn't work and you weren't willing to try again with some different mic placements etc. The drums, although well played, are just a bit "weak" in the mix and could do with some more prominence. The toms pan around nicely, but the kick and the snare could do with a bit more to come through and hold it all together. I suspect work on the drums would pay off very well for you. Guitar sounded fine to me except I would check that it is not competing with the bass, drum and synths around that 120-160hz mark. Awesome vocals happening - I am sure you guys would be great to see live. Firstly I think it is a great track, well written and performed. I agree with comments made about the long intro. I also thought I was listening to an instrumental (and a good one at that!!) at first – but I don’t necessarily think this is a drama depending on your situation. It would work well at a live performance for example.

The main thing I could think of to improve is punching out the drums a bit more – they may be competing with a lot happening in the lower freqs. My ear was straining trying to appreciate them. I know they are hard to tune and mic just right, but I would even consider adding samples shots on top if I had to get it to a commercial-ready state, and if the EQ’ing didn’t work and you weren’t willing to try again with some different mic placements etc. The drums, although well played, are just a bit “weak” in the mix and could do with some more prominence. The toms pan around nicely, but the kick and the snare could do with a bit more to come through and hold it all together. I suspect work on the drums would pay off very well for you.

Guitar sounded fine to me except I would check that it is not competing with the bass, drum and synths around that 120-160hz mark. Awesome vocals happening – I am sure you guys would be great to see live.

]]> By: Josh http://audio.tutsplus.com/articles/general/workshop-7-the-frozen-rose-by-excellion/#comment-23489 Josh Mon, 25 May 2009 07:35:33 +0000 http://audio.tutsplus.com/?p=1397#comment-23489 I normally don't listen to this type of metal, but definitely some parts that made me genuinely smile. The instrumental break with the bass fills was very cool, liked it a lot. I think the thing that this mix could most benefit from is a better guitar tone. It is this type of tone that lets down a lot of recordings, that fizzy digital sound. Its not as apparent on the solos, but the rhythms could really enhance the recordings with a better sound. How are you recording these guitars? I know someone has suggested a tube amp but most modellers I've encountered can get a better sound than is on this. One thing I would suggest is replacing the cab simulation with an IR of a mic'd cab. A good resource for some of these/plus how-tos is Andy Sneap's forum on Ultimate Metal. I can just see the mix having a lot of power this way. Drum and Bass tones are good for me. I normally don’t listen to this type of metal, but definitely some parts that made me genuinely smile. The instrumental break with the bass fills was very cool, liked it a lot. I think the thing that this mix could most benefit from is a better guitar tone. It is this type of tone that lets down a lot of recordings, that fizzy digital sound. Its not as apparent on the solos, but the rhythms could really enhance the recordings with a better sound. How are you recording these guitars? I know someone has suggested a tube amp but most modellers I’ve encountered can get a better sound than is on this. One thing I would suggest is replacing the cab simulation with an IR of a mic’d cab. A good resource for some of these/plus how-tos is Andy Sneap’s forum on Ultimate Metal. I can just see the mix having a lot of power this way. Drum and Bass tones are good for me.

]]> By: VicDiesel http://audio.tutsplus.com/articles/general/workshop-7-the-frozen-rose-by-excellion/#comment-22271 VicDiesel Fri, 15 May 2009 02:34:22 +0000 http://audio.tutsplus.com/?p=1397#comment-22271 Pretty good stuff overall. The intro is kinda long, making me suspect that it's an instrumental, and then the vocal comes in. Shorter intro, please! When the vocal comes in, it's too soft. Later on it picks up in volume and it sounds good to me. You have a good singer, but sometimes he's a little off. That note at 2:11 could use some auto-tuning. The mix in general sounds good to me, except for the bass being weak. Sometimes it almost drops out. I stopped listening at the 3 minute mark, because this is really not my taste. Make sure you actually have enough material for 6 minutes! Pretty good stuff overall.

The intro is kinda long, making me suspect that it’s an instrumental, and then the vocal comes in. Shorter intro, please!

When the vocal comes in, it’s too soft. Later on it picks up in volume and it sounds good to me.

You have a good singer, but sometimes he’s a little off. That note at 2:11 could use some auto-tuning.

The mix in general sounds good to me, except for the bass being weak. Sometimes it almost drops out.

I stopped listening at the 3 minute mark, because this is really not my taste. Make sure you actually have enough material for 6 minutes!

]]> By: Gabriel http://audio.tutsplus.com/articles/general/workshop-7-the-frozen-rose-by-excellion/#comment-22168 Gabriel Thu, 14 May 2009 01:11:45 +0000 http://audio.tutsplus.com/?p=1397#comment-22168 Probably right, I only had time to listen once. It's a great song achievement, lots of work is really evident. Probably right, I only had time to listen once.

It’s a great song achievement, lots of work is really evident.

]]> By: Adrian Villavicencio - Bass (Excellion) http://audio.tutsplus.com/articles/general/workshop-7-the-frozen-rose-by-excellion/#comment-22096 Adrian Villavicencio - Bass (Excellion) Wed, 13 May 2009 05:29:05 +0000 http://audio.tutsplus.com/?p=1397#comment-22096 Hi!, thank you for takin time to review the song! can you please tell me exactly what parts are you talking about? because we try to take care of timing a lot! its something really important in the music we play as every part have its timing counted by metronome :O. thanks and cheers! Hi!, thank you for takin time to review the song!

can you please tell me exactly what parts are you talking about?

because we try to take care of timing a lot! its something really important in the music we play as every part have its timing counted by metronome :O.

thanks and cheers!

]]> By: Adrian Villavicencio - Bass (Excellion) http://audio.tutsplus.com/articles/general/workshop-7-the-frozen-rose-by-excellion/#comment-22095 Adrian Villavicencio - Bass (Excellion) Wed, 13 May 2009 05:25:19 +0000 http://audio.tutsplus.com/?p=1397#comment-22095 hey! :O you know?... I liked your idea about reverb on the drums :O it would sound really nice!! thanks! I think I got an idea of what you're saying about instruments too busy, but if you listen again, you can realize theres riff that repeats, it has an structure and almost every verse and chorus its played the same as the first time, anyway we just thought and make some dinamics in the song to no make it predictable. actually every one of our songs sounds different, each one offers something different, give us a try! ;) www.myspace.com/xcellion cheers! and thanks for your time hey! :O

you know?… I liked your idea about reverb on the drums :O it would sound really nice!! thanks!

I think I got an idea of what you’re saying about instruments too busy, but if you listen again, you can realize theres riff that repeats, it has an structure and almost every verse and chorus its played the same as the first time, anyway we just thought and make some dinamics in the song to no make it predictable.

actually every one of our songs sounds different, each one offers something different, give us a try! ;)

http://www.myspace.com/xcellion

cheers! and thanks for your time

]]> By: Adrian Villavicencio - Bass (Excellion) http://audio.tutsplus.com/articles/general/workshop-7-the-frozen-rose-by-excellion/#comment-22093 Adrian Villavicencio - Bass (Excellion) Wed, 13 May 2009 05:18:50 +0000 http://audio.tutsplus.com/?p=1397#comment-22093 :O ok! thats was really a nice review on the song, it seems that you used headphones! :P nice!... thanks for your opinion, I'll give it a shot! ;) thank you for listening! ;) :O ok! thats was really a nice review on the song, it seems that you used headphones! :P nice!…

thanks for your opinion, I’ll give it a shot! ;)

thank you for listening! ;)

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