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A Guide to Producing an Epic Orchestral Track

A Guide to Producing an Epic Orchestral Track

Tutorial Details
  • Difficulty: Intermediate-Advanced
  • Time: 1 hour

Although I’m not a huge fan of epic productions, they are definitely the thing that producers/directors/game developers search for nowadays. Now, as a whole, epic orchestral tracks can be heard on movies, TV, commercials, video games, trailers. They always support tension, battle, chase – all of these extremely dynamic moments that always catch the attention of the customer (whether a gamer, listener or spectator, doesn’t matter).

So, this tutorial is a guide that I do hope will help you create your own epic orchestral track. Let’s get started!


Step 1: Composition

A good composition is a very, very important part of the music. It can help you very much in arranging, orchestrating and MIDI-mockuping.

First of all, I’d very much like to point something out – epic orchestral tracks are really similar. Hollywood is a huge machine that manufactures epic tracks all the time, and most of them sound 70-80% the same.

So, in order to get you and your clients happy, you should make something that sounds familiar. But you definitely should try to add a piece of yourself to it. Tired of those I-VI chords? Add something new, tweak the harmony, the melody, add some counterpoints.

There are five things that you should take into consideration when speaking about the composition:

A. Melodic Material

Melody is one of the most important things in music. The ‘leitmotif’, developed by Wagner, is a common technique that is used in modern film/game music – a melody that is connected with a character or event. Remember “The Imperial March” from Star Wars. Or if you’ve watched “The 13th Warrior” (music by Jerry Goldsmith) you’ll definitely notice how he uses a special motif for the deadly mist (a symbol of the upcoming evil).

Now let’s think about that melodic material, that motif. You should be very careful when repeating the melody. That means that you should not introduce the melody every 8 bars. If you do so, it will eventually sound boring and dull. Begin your track with the first half of the melody, or just a particular interval. For example, the music for Terry Gilliam’s “Brazil” (by Michael Kamen) has a specific melody that begins with a major sixth. Often he uses just this specific interval to point out things that are important.

Also, the melody should be easy to remember (just think about John Williams) and original as well. Yet, the main problem (and paradox) would be that most of your clients (assuming you’re “in the business”) would like that melody to sound popular. (Worst case scenario – to sound “just like “Batman Begins” or anything that is well-known today.)

Now, let’s sum up:

  • You should try to make a melody that is easy to be remembered (and sung).
  • You should try to introduce variations of the melody, so that it doesn’t get boring.
  • You should try to use specific fragments of the melody at some places.
  • You should try to make an original and interesting melody.
  • And you should try to make a melody that is well-known.

Sounds nasty, right?

In my case – I have used specific intervals (I-V-III-VII) as the beginning of the theme. The theme itself is square – four bars, divided into two small motifs of two bars. The beginning of the theme is actually the first two bars of the piece. Listen to just the beginning of the theme and the theme itself afterwards:

Motif, played by french horns:

The melody, played by strings:

Please note that all the demos before mixing are without reverb or any effects – EWQL products straight out of the box!

B. Harmony

Most of the time melody and harmony go on hand by hand. The same things that are applied to melody should be applied to harmony as well. Try using some chords that are not so popular – diminished or augmented, try different inversions. Using only the first inversions of the chords can be very boring, and you should try expanding your ‘arsenal’ of harmonic language. Mike Elliot has some great articles, called “Adding Flavor to Chords”. If you haven’t checked it out, you should totally do that!

Again, in the track for this tutorial, I have used mostly a very common chord progression – I-III. In the beginning this is F# minor → A major. The thing is that first I use a different inversion – the III is a six-four chord, meaning that the E is in the bass. Now this does not entirely please me, so I decided to make the III an altered chord – augmented. So A-C#-E becomes A-C#-E#, and when using the six-four inversion it becomes E#-A-C#. For more explanation, check the tutorial for the altered III by Ryan Leach.

Hear how it sounds, and how it sounds with the melody applied.

Unusual harmony in brass section:

Harmony plus melody:

Another fragment – harmony in staccato (and ostinato line in low strings):

Finally, consider that tonality can get boring as well. Do you think that using only C major for a whole movie would be good and interesting? Not at all! So you should try to modulate through different keys.

In my track, which by the way is called “Roof Chase”, I wanted to represent a real chase, very tense and dynamic. My imaginary character is insecure. He tries to run for his life. Everything is at stake… So I modulate through different keys – I try not to stop for a long time on a specific key. My character is being chased on rooves, he isn’t likely to slow down and drink a cup of tea, right?

C. Form

Now, my colleague Ryan Leach has a great article on SCOREcast Online regarding form. Nowadays forms like rondo, sonata and etc. are rarely used because most of the commercial music is applied to picture (excluding popular music). So, as Ryan tells us: “Picture is king.

Nevertheless, you should think of a structure that you can apply on your track. In my case I have an ABA form, meaning – one part, after that you have another, different in style and thematic material part, and finally you have the A again as a reprise (with a dynamic reprise, meaning that I didn’t copy A directly and furthermore developed ideas from A).

D. Ostinato

Ryan Leach has another great article, called “How to Create a Compelling Ostinato”. Today’s music is 80% created out of ostinatos – whether it will be the bassline or those repetitive cello notes, introduced by Hans Zimmer in “The Dark Knight”.

Ostinatos are great, but again – you should try to add something new. Here in the beginning violas and second violins are playing the same rhythm and the same note (B natural), but after that there are these 16th notes that make a specific mode (minor key with II flat, in our case – B natural – C natural – D natural – E natural – F#).

One thing with an ostinato rhythm is that if you want to have a dynamic musical piece that has the listener in its clutches from the beginning till the end, you should not abandon the pulse. When you start an ostinato you should keep it till the end. (Of course, there are always exceptions – you might want to add a slow, romantic part that will contrast the aggression.)

When it comes to orchestration, you can transfer the pulsation through different sections of the orchestra – strings / woodwinds / brass / percussion. That tip is very useful because ostinato as well can get boring – and by changing timbres you can add variation to our repetitive pattern, creating a stable, yet interesting, foundation of the track.

A nice example is Schostakovich’s 8th Symphony, Part 3. You can see how he uses a repetitive pattern in the violas (at the beginning) and after that in the strings and just when you think that the strings get kinda repetitive, he places the same ostinato in the brass section (trombones).

Ostinato strings (violas and second violins, together with subtle harmonics in first violins):

Another part of the piece, violas and second violins again with bass/celli stabs:

E. Counterpoint

This is a term, that covers the relationship of two or more voices. Now, these epic orchestral pieces are very far away from the masterpieces that for example Bach created during the Baroque. Yet, you can use techniques as imitation, adding different voices (punctus – contrapunctus, meaning that you have one melodic line against another one), mirrored imitations, canons and other.

So, I have a certain moment that I start an imitation between different orchestral sections (French horns – trumpets – violins). It’s not a literal imitation, though it has the same intervals, same rhythm as the main melody. The changes come from the harmony. Hear for yourself:

Only soloing instruments:

Tutti:


Step 2: Orchestration and MIDI

The art of orchestration is a very complex and interesting one. I think that today it can be divided into “classical orchestration” and “MIDI orchestration”. The latter is created with the help of software and samples – check my previous tutorials and quick tips.

Now I think that one rule can be applied to orchestration – when done properly in a classical way, MIDI orchestration becomes piece of cake. Lots of problems will be solved when a nice classical orchestration has been made.

For example if you need high frequencies to your mix, instead of adding some EQ plugins and playing around with the sound – just add a piccollo! This will help add the needed high frequencies and moreover – it will colour up the mix. So a few things that I’ve used in my track:

A. Combining Brass Harmonies with String Melodies

Have you listened to a live orchestra? If so, then you probably have noticed that a single trumpet can blow the entire string section. (James Newton Howard’s score for “The Last Airbender” was recorded with 83 string players!). Now, what about two, three or even four trumpets and twelve french horns? I guess you can picture the situation.

When you place the harmony in the brass section, you won’t need the strings to play the harmony as well (apart from double-basses or cellos that could play the bassline). In most of the scores I’ve looked at, when there is a massive fortissimo harmony in the brass section, first violins, second violins, violas and even some of the woodwinds play in… unison! Therefore they create a thick melodic line (great example is “Dance of the Knights” by Prokofiev’s Romeo and Juliet – there is an amazing video on YouTube, conducted by Valery Gergiev).

There is a certain part in the middle of my piece that has a similar orchestration – there is an ostinato in the whole string section (the ostinato is changed now, to add something new for the listener), the harmony is in the brass section and woodwinds play the harmony in the high register and make some effects (arpeggios in triplets).

Hear the brass section only:

Now hear the string section:

… and the woodwinds:

Finally – the whole orchestra!

B. Blend Different Patches

My next orchestration hint will be to blend different patches together, therefore creating a thicker sound. I mostly used this in my strings section to get my strings to sound as real as possible.

Now let’s talk about violins: I’ve used a preset from Hollywood Strings that is called “NV NV VB MV” (“1st Violins – Long – (Sus) 3 NV NV VB MV RR”) – meaning that this patch is controlled by modulation wheel and goes from pianissimo and nonvibrato (NV) to con tutta la forza and molto vibrato (MV). Moreover it’s round-robin (RR), meaning that each note triggers a different sample – in our case this is the change of bows (upbow/downbow).

Now I don’t think that this is enough for me, therefore I’ve used another patch from Hollywood Strings – “Sus 13” (from the folder “Long Powerful System”). These patches also control vibrato and volume, but the difference is that the sustain patches control both vibrato and volume independently. The vibrato is controlled with MOD wheel (CC#1), while the volume is controlled with expression (CC#11). This patch, being one designed for a “powerful system” has five levels of loudness for non-vibrato, five levels of loudness for vibrato, and three levels of loudness for molto vibrato. All that means that you can get a very detailed and real strings sound!

Hear our violin melody with just the first patch:

And now the second patch:

And finally with the patches combined:

C. How to Double String Sections

Note that my next orchestration hint will be an apocryphal one and one that you should not use in real orchestration. So, this hint is about doubling each string section… with another one.

Have you heard what ‘divisi’ means? This is when a string section is divided into pieces (two or more). Let’s see for example the celli – they can play double-stops, but double-stops usually sound tense and are not always possible for playing (especially in faster tempos). So, if we want the celli to play in an octave, we should write ‘divisi’ on top of them – our players will see this and will divide the notes between themselves.

Now, the main problem with divisi is that they affect negatively on thickness and volume. When a string section is divided, it sounds as half of the players and doesn’t have that depth in it. So, our 8 cellist for example will sound like 4 cellist + 4 cellist, not like an entire cello section.

So, what’s this hint that I am talking about? Making fake divisi. I’ll double each section with the previous one, starting with the celli, and therefore I’ll thicken the sound. Using that formula, I’ll double the celli line with the basses (without affecting the main bass line), I’ll double the viola line with celli, the second violin line with violas and etc.

The important thing with this technique is that each doubling should be with 40-50% of its volume. If we take our basses for instance, they will play their line in their most natural register and doubling the cellos can be too high for them, therefore the sound will be very unnatural. We only want to have the idea of doubling, just the small appearance of another timbre that will colour up the celli.

Remember – this should be like cooking. You don’t overdo the spices, right? Now listen to how this technique sounds:

Do you notice the subtle octave, that gets in after four bars? (I’ve muted the first 4 bars for the demo, as shown on the image above.) Listen carefully, for best results use headphones. Now hear the whole and “thick” string section:

And remember – do not do this with real orchestras!

Also, another thing that you can do, is to double strings with different timbres – woodwinds, percussion, piano. Hear some ideas:

Violins + xylophone:

Strings + piano (I personally love doubling piano with low string ostinatos!):

Violas + bassoon:

D. Use the Proper Voicing for Brass and Woodwind

Using proper voicing is crucial to great brass and woodwind sound. In my experience I’ve developed a way of placing chords for brass section.

A while ago I read this question in internet: “What are the trombones for?” Actually yes, this is a very interesting question, because mainly our ear is familiar with the epic-adventure French horn or the marching trumpets… but no trombones.

Well, the thing that I can tell you for sure is that trombones are really dynamic brass instruments with a very colourful timbre – meaning that trombones can play low and harsh (like a tuba), and they can play in the high register very softly and their sound can be closer to a that of a trumpet.

So here is the way I’m making my chord voicings (with exceptions of course!):

  • Trumpets
  • French Horns, Trombone, Tuba.

Therefore trombones are closer to the tuba (low, harsh timbre) and trumpets (majestic, powerful, high). Between them – French horns (noble timbre, thickens the whole “brass section” sound). I guarantee that if you do this voicing right, you’ll have a solid and powerful harmony in your piece. Check it out.

As for woodwinds – there are several types of positions, that mostly change the timbre and volume of the music. If you want to check most of them – try getting some orchestration books like the one from Samuel Adler or the “Principles of Orchestration” by Rimsky-Korsakow. My track, “Roof Chase” is a very dynamic and epic track, mostly – drums, brass and string unisons. This is very, very powerful. Therefore I’ve duplicated timbres – for example I’ll have a simple C major chord and I’ll divide the notes like this:

  • 2 Flutes – E + G
  • 2 Oboes – C + E
  • 2 Clarinets – C + G

So, the whole woodwind section (apart from bassoons), which is equal to six players, will play C + E + G and each one of the notes will be doubled. This technique will help the chord to fight the power of the brass section and percussion and therefore stand on its own.

E. Use Hits

Remember that you should use the whole power of the orchestra, but not each bar. One way to do this is to use hits. I’ve written a quick tip regarding hits that may help you. The same techniques apply here, only that I’ve used instruments like piano, marimba, synths.

F. Add Interest with Orchestra Effects

Orchestra effects are a great way of making things sound interesting. The perfect instruments for this in such an epic production are the pitched percussion (marimba, xylophone, celesta, etc.) and woodwinds.

Listen to some ideas:

Xylophone making some transitions:

Woodwinds playing triplets (in unison, to make a thick sound that will endure the power of the other sections):

Woodwind runs:


Step 3: Recording Live Instruments

As I’ve written in my previous tutorial, “Making Your MIDI Strings Even More Realistic”, whenever possible you should record some live instruments that will give the production more timbre and colour. In my case, I didn’t have the budget to call for string or brass players, so I decided to record some drums in my home studio – so I’ve recorded some sticks, bendir (Turkish frame drum), bells, cajon and a strange African drum that a friend brought me from Uganda.

The important thing is that apart from sticks and bells (which serve more like a “decoration” to the main beat) all the other percussion should be in unison with the MIDI ones.

Hear for yourself.

Recorded drum solo:

MIDI drums only:

Drum mix:


Step 4: Adding Synths

Another technique is to add some synths to thicken the sound. Arpeggiators are a good way to add colour to your track – I’ve used one patch that I made myself with Cakewalk z3ta. You can add some modulation effects (tremolo, vibrato, flanger) and some distortion to make the sound more industrial. One great thing to read will by Ryan Leach’s tutorial about tremolo.

Hear how my synth blends with the strings at the beginning:

Another great use of synths will be using some subbass sinewaves to thicken the bassline or to add depth to hits. Hear how I used a single subbass note on some of the hits in the track (it’s delicate, though):


Step 5: Mixing

Now we come to the tough part – the mixing. There are few points in the mix process that you should take care about very precisely. It is not going to be easy – with my template all my tracks go to 80+ (without the audio channels), so it can get kinda messy there! There is a rule that the good mix makes mastering easy. Well, as I said before – good composition and orchestration makes a track easy to mix. When you compose with the mix in your head you can achieve great result on the sound.

There are lots of things that I could say about mixing. The main three things that you should care about are: depth, panning, frequency balance.

Frequency Balance

Overall, you always have to think about balance – when mixing in stereo you should think about having your left and right channels to be equal. Also, you should not overdo some of the frequencies – for example highs over lows and so on.

Some points regarding frequency problems:

  1. Try not to put each instrument in the same register. Use different ranges, think about your chord voicings. Be careful about doubling different instruments.
  2. As I said previously, if you need more frequencies, think about orchestration first, and after that think about equalizers. You need more low-end? Add tuba, bassoon, contrabassoon, timpani, gran casa. Need more high-end? Add flutes or piccolos, add celesta, glockenspiel, xylophone.
  3. If you have lots of low-end problems (commonly with drums) add a nice high-pass filter. Same things that apply for popular genres can be applied here as well!

Depth

Now, the depth. One of the biggest problems is how to use reverb and, most commonly, how much reverb should be added. In orchestral tracks I’d suggest using send effects. See another great article by Mo Volans.

Why using sends? In my case, my template takes about 15 gigs of RAM and my CPU is used on 80%. Putting reverb on each of those 80+ channels would be a total sucide.

Another idea is that having one reverb setting for your orchestra will give you a much more coherent sound. As you’ve probably noticed from the demos above, Hollywood Strings and Brass (Gold) are pretty dry, so I’d like to add a nice reverb that could get the sound to a next level. So, I’ve used one SEND fx track (stereo) where I’ve put a simple impulse-response reverb (the Cubase-built Reverence).

One thing that you should take notice of is that all the signals go there with different strength. In a real orchestra hall the brass section is WAY behind the strings (= more reverb), while the strings are upfront. Hear the “before” and “after” demos:

Before:

After:

Parallel Compression

And my final tip for this guide should be the “parallel compression”. Check Joel Falconer’s tut “Give Drums Impact with Parallel Compression”. This will thicken up the sound of the drums and will make them sound very, very epic. Also, this will help you bring the drums more upfront in the mix, making them that stable basis of the track.

No parallel compression:

With parallel compression (listen how the drum section ‘thickens’!):


Conclusion

So, I’ve come to the end of this tutorial. Hope this has inspired you to compose, orchestrate and mix your own music. Don’t forget to share your tracks in the comments section!

Here’s how my track sounds after all those steps:

… and the final, mastered, version:

  • Clericuzio

    This is absolutely amazing ! over some time there is a tutorial which actually brings a final result that will get your jaw dropped.. great work!

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Thanks, mate, glad you enjoyed it! Stay tuned for more!
      Best,
      George

  • 1234

    Great tut!

    Please, can you do a indepht tutorial, about mixing this kind of epic orchestral music:
    like using EQ, Compression,saturation, Panning/stereo tricks for width, using reverb etc.
    Orchestral/film music sounds very dynamic, but still i believe its pretty compressed/Limited?

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Hey there!
      Depends on the film music. If you listen to most of Jerry Goldsmith’s work, or John Williams’ you’ll hear almost the actual sound of the orchestra. However, if you listen to some of the works of the “new” generation of composers (Zimmer, Powell, Tyler) you can notice more compression and limiting.

      Yes, I could make a few quick tips regarding mixing. That would be enjoyable.
      Cheers!

      • 1234

        Yes, you are right, i was talking about the “new” generation of composers :)

        Hope to see more tuts from you, all the previous tuts have been great!

        Thanks in advance.

  • screenwright

    Great tutorial! Nice musical piece and a great deal of detail! So refreshing to see something on here besides tips for dubstep, hip-hop, techno, etc.

    • http://www.tricky-loops.de Tricky Loops

      Actually (from a composer’s point of view) classical music isn’t that much different from hip hop, dubstep, techno or electronic dance music. Not only that you can use a string section in a hip hop song or a trumpet section in a dance track – the rules of composition apply to every kind of music.

      I always have hated classical music theory and thought of it as dusty, old fashioned rules – but right now I’m actually learning some techniques of classical composing for making modern dance music.

      Now I hope that the friends of classical music don’t condemn me outright. Music is to entertain people and make them dance – whether it is classic, rock, pop, psytrance, dance club music, folk music or hip hop.

      When people are having fun and can dance, it is good music – independently from the kind of style.

      • screenwright

        You’re really just reenforcing why there should be more of this kind of tuts on here. I am an orchestral composer who dabbles in electronic music also. This site sometimes seems so focused on the “launch Ableton, push 6 buttons, loop this, put an effect on that and you have a song” approach that I think, that it often misses diving deep into complexity (like this piece did so wonderfully).
        Some folks think that adding a string patch to their track and playing it like you would play a piano means they are an orchestral composer, and nothing could be further from the truth. There is much to be learned from musical styles that have been around for hundreds of years (vs. hundreds of months).
        Truly embracing different types of music even allows you to transcend the notion that music has to be about “having fun” or having a high “dancability” factor to make it “good”.

      • http://www.tricky-loops.de Tricky Loops

        Recently I dreamt of Mozart who was playing with 100 GB violin samples from some library called “The best string orchestrations from the last 3 centuries”…and he said to me: “Gimme my violin, I have no time to listen to all these samples”… :-)

        Jokes apart, I’m really no fan of all those sample libraries. But I have no other choice (and my name is Tricky Loops, so I have to use loops). If I would have more time and money, I would go to the next symphonic orchestra and record everything live. Maybe the scorewriter Hans Zimmer had the money to do so before he discovered Zebra…

        There should be an exchange between orchestral instrumental composers and composers of electronic music. Everyone can learn from each other. I think especially of Michael Cretu who studied classical music and then learned how to make electronic music. And when I listen to Enigma, I perceive that there are orchestral elements (Dynamic for example and expression) that songs from other composers (of electronic music) do not have. And that’s what makes this tutorial so special.

        Regarding the object of music: That would be stuff for another article – what music is all about.

        When you look in the history, music comes from spirituality: People standing in a circle and making a shamanic ritual, someone speak some spells and the others reply to it (da capo, you know).

        Nowadays the object of music seems to be some kind of relaxing and to make people feel (from calm on chillout music to aggressive on death metal). Relaxing means both dancing and reposing.

        But that’s an IMPORTANT question that every producer/composer/songwriter should be aware of: What will I achieve with my music? Because I have heard so much so called “electronic experimental music” that sounds like a knocked down frog at the highway on rush hour – I would never buy it even if the producer would have experimented for years on it to layer 40 textures above another.

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Guys,

      I’m very happy that my tutorial has influenced such a discussion! The topic is a very serious one and to me contemporary music lacks the complexity of the musical language. That doesn’t mean it’s bad, but compared to Shostakovich hip-hop (for instance) sounds very… simple. I think that is due to a variety of factors (of course, the first one being the genre differences). But overall I think that 1) in late 19, early 20th century most of the composers reached amazing peaks of musical language, 2) afterwards the avant-garde and post avant-garde era and expressionism did lots of damage on serious music thinking, and finally 3) we live in such a world where we face problems, stress and lots of nasty emotions every single day.
      After 8 hours of work I won’t listen to Schoenberg, that’s for sure!

      Enigma is a very nice example of bringing “classical” language into electronic music.

      Best,
      George.

      P.S.
      Don’t get me wrong – I’ve made and I continue to make hip-hop, chill-out, new age, electronic music. No insults intended.

      • http://www.tricky-loops.de Tricky Loops

        But compared to the 19th century there is far more peace and less war in the world, so we could have an easier life and should have more time to learn composing. The mankind makes all those stress itself, not the world. That’s what I have criticized in my 15-minutes-mixing-comments – because the fast pace maybe good to earn more money as a sound engineer, but not to enlighten creativity. Maybe the problem is: there are many good composers, but they can’t emerge because of all the other music floating around. If today there would be Mozart, he would have a soundcloud, a facebook and a twitter account, but no one would recognize him.

        Now what I think we need in the future, are people with classical music background who also deal with electronic music – building bridges and beginning a real exchange. In my childhood there were only dusty pianos, dusty, old teachers and dusty colorless books with so much notation symbols in it that they seemed to be hieroglyphs to me. Subsequently, I hated classical music theory.

        But now currently I’m reading some (new) books with some information about classical composing and arranging, and the more I read them the more I feel how much classical composing can help even producers of electronic music (and how much sophisticated it is).

  • Yaw

    What DAW is presented in this window?

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Cubase 6.

  • Daniel

    What kind of DAW is shown in STEP 3?

    • http://www.audio-issues.com Björgvin

      That’s either Cubase or Nuendo, they’re almost the same DAW, and definitely look the same.

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Yes, this is Cubase 6. (64bit)

  • http://www.kingseamus.com Thomas

    Fantastic tutorial, man! Thanks so much for making this! Very helpful and extremely well done.

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Hi, Thomas — glad you like it. Nothing makes me happier than inspired fellow musicians.

      Best regards,
      George

  • chris

    just fantastic! thank you so much!! and the track sound amazing :)

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Thanks, Chris. Very happy that you enjoyed both the tutorial AND the track :)

  • Norman

    Wow! Thanks George. Brilliant tutorial.

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Thanks, Norman – very happy that it was useful.

  • http://soundcloud.com/whitetern White Tern

    nice. i always have trouble dealing with depth

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      You’re not the only one, mate. I still have nightmares and wake up suddenly in the middle of the night, screaming: “LESS REVERB!!!” :)

      Best,
      George

  • http://www.sudhingr8.webs.com sudhingr8

    I would suggest Edirol Orchestra as a great VST for orchestration… By the way great tutorial!!! keep it up

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Not to sound too picky, but Edirol Orchestral is pretty old right now. it was great when I first started working (and everyone was using Giga samples), but afterwards other libraries started popping up – Gary Garritan’s, Miroslav’s Philharmonic, East West, etc – that are both cheap (compared to other products) and still offer a fairly realistic orchestra instruments.

      Cheers,
      George

  • http://arranger.bz Ifeelgood

    thanks
    interest material
    take look at http://arranger.bz/2012/01/27/1/
    i produced a brass section, using sample modelling vst-instruments

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      I do feel good after listening to this — very nice work! What sample libraries did you use? I’m looking for good big band sound at the moment.

      • http://arranger.bz Ifeelgood

        Thanks a lot! There is set of “sample modelling” ( http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/index.php ) libraries for kontakt. “the trombone”, “the trumpet”, “sax brothers”.

  • dj

    Incredible! Not only the piece; but, I’m impressed with the care and effort which obviously went into the planning and execution of the tut! Clear, concise script carefully explaining rationale as well as procedure, and best of all punctuated with well-crafted examples. I, for one, hope to hear more from you – the Good Lord and Envato willing.

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Thanks very much for these kind words. I can’t be more happy right now – after reading all those comments and seeing that writing this tutorial had some effect.
      I’d write more, as soon as I have the time.

      Best regards,
      George.

      • http://adriantry.com Adrian Try

        You should feel happy, George. Epic comments for an epic tut. Thanks for all your hard work. Adrian

      • http://www.tricky-loops.de Tricky Loops

        Wouldn’t it be better to add a kind of like button (and maybe even a dislike button) above the article? So everyone can vote for it and you’ll see immediately if the article is appreciated or not.

        I think giveawayoftheday.com shows how it could be made better. They have some rating system.

        I find these (self) adulation comments somewhat boring. What I like are comments which are showing an other side, start some controversy, give me real tips for making music or at least make me think about some music related stuff.

        All these “Wow, you’re so good. I like it. I wanna read more…” — as a reader, what use should I draw from?

  • daniel

    Thank you for this lesson. Fantastic.

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Thanks, Daniel. Glad I was able to help.

      Stay tuned for more!

      Cheers,
      George.

  • http://www.soundcloud.com/skyy38 Arne Barnard

    And you hear even MORE of the actual orchestra on the Soundtrack for STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE

    Which is as it SHOULD be, even if you’re doing little more than a “MIDI Mockup”.

  • Patricia

    Hello George,
    Thank you so much for this great tutorial. I really enjoyed it as well as your music. I’m wondering, why do you use the Sus patches for the violin line instead of a legato patch? Wouldn’t it sound more realistic to use a legato patch than to blend two Sus patches?
    Looking forward for more of your tutorials.
    Patricia

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Hi, Patricia,

      your question is a very good one. Indeed, “legato” patches do sound better in Hollywood Strings. The main thing is that I simply don’t have enough RAM at the moment (16GB) and my whole orchestral template takes up to 14GB ram (other 2 gb left for live recordings). Sustain patches are very “light” compared to the legato ones.
      If you have a better machine than mine – legato patches are way better.

      Kindest regards,
      George.

  • Patricia

    Hi George,

    Then I have to congratulate you because you did an amazing job! I couldn’t even tell those were not legato patches and I wouldn’t have if you didn’t say so. So don’t worry about not having enough ram, I think most people can’t notice it.

    Best,

    Patricia

  • Andy

    Great stuff, mate. I really like it. Lots of useful information.

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Hey, Andy —

      glad I was able to help! Stay tuned for more useful hints and tips!

      Cheers,
      George.

  • Ryan

    This is terrific. Just terrific! Everything I’ve been trying to learn. Right here! Thanks so much for this!!

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      Ryan, it’s been a pleasure. So happy the tutorial helped all of you!

  • Tabnak

    George, cancel all your appointments and start making more tuts! These are great!

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      lol, I’ll definitely think consider this. and by the way – I am already thinking about a next one, so… stay tuned!

  • Marius

    You mention that in Hollywood Strings the sustained patches have the vibrato linked to the Mod Wheel and volume linked to expression. Is that true of the sustained patches of other libraries, such as Symphonic Orchestra?

    • http://www.strezov.net Strezov

      @Marius,

      sadly no – this can’t be achieved in Symphonic Orchestra. That’s because Hollywood strings is a pretty new library, with tons and tons of samples (and by “tons” you could imagine more than 30GB of samples!).

      Perhaps I didn’t explain everything very clearly in the article – sorry about that.

      Best,
      George

  • chris

    George, I stumbled on audio tuts a few days ago, and I’m soaking up as many tutorials as I can! But I have to say this one takes the cake as far as the attention to detail and the presentation of all the different dynamics of a piece..thank you so much and good job!! The only part that wasn’t super clear for me (and admittedly never has been) was your brief breakdown of counterpoint..I’m sort of confused as to what is being presented in the two audio samples, and how the concept of counterpoint is being used.

  • Leon James

    Hi there George.

    My name is Leon and I’m a music producer from India.

    I must say, I just LOVE your tutorials and the music you make. Especially this tutorial on orchestral sound production. INSANE writing I must say. Keep writing these tutorials IF you have the time that is ;)

    Thank you so much for taking your time out to help us growing musicians learn what you have. Not many people around the world, and especially musicians and people in this industry are not willing to share their “Trade” secrets. But you have taken your time off to do this, which is something no one would ever do.

    Thank you so very much for sharing these great tips. Thanks again. :)

    Warm Regards,
    Leon James

  • http://lifeinbrand.com Damian

    Great tutorial, this type of tutorial is very inspiring. Many tips and techniques that you describe can be found in some of the epic piece by Kilar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ul_CKW4Sfo

    Regards,
    Damian

  • http://rundomusic.com Tom

    Absolutely amazing mate!

  • http://www.abletonproductiontutorials.com Vios

    I think soundfonts are one of the best ways to do this! For SFZ soundfont player and links to an orchestral pack that’s considered to be the best free one available see:

    http://www.abletonproductiontutorials.com/free-vsts/

  • koopanique

    Exactly the kind of tutorial I needed. Thanks!

  • Holger

    Great tutorial. Thank you very much.

  • Odorwyn

    https://soundcloud.com/ace-of-clubs/chasing_dreams

    I just started to get interested into this kind of genre, and your tutorial was very good, i really enjoyed reading it. For my first track in this genre i used the I – IV – III – VII intervalls you mentioned – i think it fits very well :)

    I’d love to hear some feedback :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.shenk Matthew Shenk

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  • Sara

    Really like this! Lots of practical ideas and excellently illustrated with examples.

  • Ghidorah

    This was great! Thank you very much!

  • EdibleRobot

    Incredible article. Thank you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.shenk Matthew Shenk

    lol, srry everyone for the multiple posts…it must of took like 3 weeks to show up…wasn’t trying to spam!

  • DancingKutas

    best tutorial of that kind in the internet THANKS!

  • Joshua Empyre
  • Adam

    thank you very much for your guide. really really helpfu!. Btw, does anyone know a free program that i could download? I want to rewrite some music i composed so that the sound and all would be better than the simple noise my current music software provides.
    thanks <3

  • Simon Sloth

    Awesome tutorial. It covered so many things which were questions to me before. Now I feel that I have inspiration and knowledge to continue my project. Thank you!

  • Ephraim Champion

    Thank you very very much! I love the song, I’m not trying to be a jerk, but I don’t think the title matches the song. Honestly, I can’t picture a roof chase with this song, maybe another scene. Although, THIS WAS VERY AWESOME, YEEEEEEAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • oihoiuhu

    Audio examples currently stopped loading in FF20

  • http://www.facebook.com/hur.cerrahoglu Hur Ozan Cerrahoglu

    Mr, Strezov,

    I don’t know how to thank you to give me such vision, without your tutorial I could never think about building such a track, here is a sample of my homework, hope to see more tutorials of such kind..

    https://soundcloud.com/hur-ozan-cerrahoglu/the-chase

    P.s. 1 : I am neither professional nor after funds.

    P.s. 2 : How to create such harmonies in major chords?

    P.s. 3 : If possible can I contact you through facebook?