Quick Tip: Side Chain Compression in Ableton Live 8 – Part 1

Quick Tip: Side Chain Compression in Ableton Live 8 – Part 1

Tutorial Details
  • Difficulty: Intermediate
  • Time: 5-10 minutes
  • Requirements: Ableton Live
This entry is part 14 of 17 in the Creative Session: All About Compression Session
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This entry is part 1 of 2 in the series Quick Tip: Side Chain Compression in Ableton Live 8

Up to Ableton Live version 6, the software didn’t include a compressor device with side chain input. Ableton Live 7 onwards introduced the new side chain enabled native compressor. The resulting effect is also called "ducking" and in this two-part tutorial we are going to explore it’s uses and demonstrate how his method can assist and enhance your mixing experience.

We are also going to look on how to apply side chain compression to multiple signals and also how to modify the spectral characteristics of the compressed signal so that only a certain frequency range can be affected. Finally we are going to spectrally modify a "busy" input signal so that only a certain frequency range will have an effect on our compressed signal. The Ableton Live version being used is 8.0.9.


Step 1: Setting Up

We are going to create the classic ducking effect using the sidechain feature from Ableton Live’s native compressor device. What we mean by that is that we are going to compress a signal according to another input signal that we are going to define in our project. I’ve prepared an electro style loop using a Drum Rack for drums, a percussion loop that resides in another audio channel, a bounced audio synth bass loop, and a white noise effect. (See the source files included.)

Listen to the loop:

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Step 2: Inserting the Compressor

Insert a Compressor device on the Bass track. Activate the External Sidechain button on the compressor. From the Audio From drop-down box, select Drums(our Drums channel) and from the drop-down box underneath, select Drum Rack | Kick | Pre FX. This way we command the compressor to activate itself only when the kick drum is heard before any effects are applied to the kick drum(we have no effects applied to it). Now, we need to set the compressor settings properly.

Here are my settings:

  • Gain: 8.00dB
  • Dry/Wet: 100%
  • Envelope: Opto
  • Attack: 0.01ms
  • Release: 60.0ms
  • Threshold: -25.0dB
  • Ratio: 6.00
  • Knee: 5.0dB
  • Model: FF2
  • Lookahead: 1ms
  • Output: 0.00dB

Our intention is to cut the bass volume a bit but not silence the signal completely achieving a pumping effect. Experiment with the other settings depended on your source material. The small headphone icon at the right of the External Sidechain button is the Sidechain Listen switch. The switch disables the compressor’s output and allows you to hear only the sidechain input. This is a temporary diagnostic tool that can make it easier to set the sidechain parameters. You can activate it to mute the bass sound and listen to just the kick drum, our sidechain input.

The EQ settings allow you to modify the spectral characteristics of you input signal to allow certain frequencies from it to affect the target signal. It’s useful when we deal with a "busy" drum loop that contains both kick drum hi hats, snares, etc. We’ll get back to it later on.

Let’s listen how the kick drum affects our bass sound now

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Step 3: Ducking Multiple Signals

Currently our kick drum acts as the input signal compressing the bass sound. We’re going to use the same input signal to compress the white noise sample that gets introduced at the beginning of the 5th bar

So, listen to the uncompressed white noise sound along with the loop.

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For that we shall follow a different approach. Drag and drop the sidechain compressor to a Return channel. I put mine in Return B since Return A is already occupied by a Reverb. Group the device in an Audio Effects Rack by CTRL(CMD)+G or by select Edit->Group. An Audio Effect Rack is created with our current device located in the first chain. Show the Chain List and rename the Chain to Sidechain(CTRL(CMD)+R to rename). Right click underneath the Chain and choose Create Chain. Drop a Utility plug in and choose the Invert preset from Live’s Device Browser. Rename the Chain to Invert and optionally drag it above the Compression chain. That’s it.

Now increase the corresponding Send value for each track that you want compressed(currently the Bass and the White Noise) by turning the knob to the right. The more you increase each track’s contribution to the corresponding return track’s input the more compressed the signal will be as the Utility plug in in the Rack cancels out the signal coming from each track through its Send knob leaving only the compressed signal to pass through. This way we could have multiple tracks being compressed by the same input signal in various degrees.

Listen on how both the Bass and White noise tracks are compressed.

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That’s all for now. In Part 2 we are going to examine ways of ducking a frequency range using multiband dynamics and EQ and finally how to duck a “busy signal”. Thanks for your time!

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Discussion 12 Comments

  1. Alejandro says:

    Hi there, George. Thanks for the tutorial. Could you explain what does the Invert plugin do in this context, please?

  2. Pieter says:

    very nice approach to ducking multiple channels! I always used a compression bus in ableton, with a sidechained compressor and the routing set to IN, then I choose in the in/out of the track I want to duck that it outputs to that bus in stead of the master channel.
    I think I now might use a combination of both ways, as I still like to group channels and make endless subgroups for mixing (not only ducking but also eq for the bass and the kick,…) cause this works great for me!
    using this way might be somewhat confusing in the mixdown…

    another thought I’m having is that it wouldn’t be possible to directly put any eq or limiting after that instrument rack, because it will disturb the phase invert… unless ofcourse you put it in the effect chain of the compressor.. but still no sends on that return channel too!

    @ Alejandro: with the phase invert there’s a phase cancellation of the original track, so that it’s being muted, and only the ducked track thats ducked by the send reaches the master output.

  3. turdburger says:

    BASS! Not, base. That’s a foundation, this is a musical concept. It’s not like it was one misplaced word in spell check either. Every instance of the word is incorrect. Maybe proof reading is in order… crap like this makes me question credibility on this site.

    • Adrian Try says:
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      Hi Turdburger. Apologies, and thanks for pointing out the error – it’s fixed now. I’m madly trying to schedule posts in advance before I go on holidays, so because George’s spelling is normally excellent, I didn’t take the time to proof read it as usual. Other than the spelling, what did you think of the tut?

  4. Jake says:

    turdburgler, get a life (and a capital letter at the start of you name weirdo while you’re at it)

    Thanks for the tutorial chaps. Very helpful.

  5. John says:

    Thanks, helpful, basetastic!

  6. steven says:

    superb tutorial, thanks a lot

  7. Al says:

    I’m pretty new to Ableton. Trying to find my way around it and learn some of the basics. Maybe I’m just an idiot, but I downloaded the source files for this tutorial and I can load them in Ableton but I can’t hear a damn thing. I’m running version 8.2.1. I get signal from all of the channels but I can’t hear a thing out of my speakers. Other tutorials and files work fine. For some reason this one doesn’t.

    Any ideas as to why?

  8. Jon says:

    Hi, thanks for the tutorial.

    I have a question though. When you are using the bus method by putting the invert/compression on a return channel, why is it that arming the track you are sending to the sidechain bus seem to disable the invert and lets you hear both signals?

  9. Scott says:

    Like the tutorial. But like Jon I’m a newbie so why did setting the project to 1/2 create sound?

    And as a sideline, turdburgler, your alias suits you.

  10. Richard says:

    Hi, excellent tutorial. Only I have a question:
    What volume marker used to equalize?
    thanks

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